Friday, January 11, 2013

Calling All Researchers of the Kawayne Family

Are you a descendant of Hasan Kawayni (aka Kawayne, Kilwayne)? Or are you a researcher interested in the Ashraf of Ogaden and Somalia?
What is some work that you can do to help the Kawayni tribe?
1. Can anyone take photos of the grave of Hasan Kawayni, his children, or his father Umar?  The locations of their graves are allegedly in locations known as Fayr-fayr and Wayr-Dayr. Do they have tombstones that mention their lineage (nasab)? As this book and genealogists of the Ashraf explain, tombstones are some of the best historical proofs for establishing the lineage of a person.
2. Does anyone have any documentary proof of his lineage? The Ba'Alawi tribe in Tarim will not recognize the ancestry of Hasan Kawayni until the tribe can show documented, historical evidence like a Contract, Waqf or any document signed by a Qadi (judge) from previous centuries which shows proof that Hasan Kawayni was a Sharif and the descendent of the Ba'Alawis.
3. Did any foreign writers or researchers (from Europe, the Middle East, Africa) meet the descendants of Hasan Kawayni and mention them in their writings over the centuries?


Please email me if you have any of these documents.

Why is this documentary proof important?
1. If Ali and Fatima are considered the first ancestors (level 1), Hasan and Husayn (level 2), Zayn al-Abidin (level 3), counting all the way down: Shaykhān b. ‘Alawī is considered (level 29). The lineage between Shaykhān b. ‘Alawī and Hasan Kawayni requires revision and cannot be correct because there are simply too many names.
How do I know there are too many names?
(a) The Quran manuscript mentions Zayn "ibn" Abidin - (Zayn al-Abidin is one person not two!)
(b) The Quran manuscript mentions Abdallah b. Ahmad b. Ahmad b. Isa (Same error, Ahmad is one person not two!). We know (a) and (b) because we have so many other historical sources to help us.
(c) It mentions : Abdullah b. 'Ubayd b. Ali b. Muhammad (when Abdullah is one not two! Ubayd is a nickname)
(d) Now for our main problem: Hasan Kawayni b. Umar b. Ali b. Adam b. Ibrahim b. Musa b. Muhammad b. Muhammad b. Muhammad b. Muhammad b. Ahmad b. Alawi b. (#29) Shaykhān

Problem with (d): Besides this old Quran, we have no other proof for this lineage.  We need to verify it with other sources.  If those sources are more accurate then they can rectify the large number of names. For example, "Muhammad" is mentioned four times, which is highly unusual. "Adam" and "Ibrahim" are also unusual names in the Ba'Alawi tribe in Tarim.

Next, the great-granddaughter of Hasan al-Kawayni (if the tree is correct) is Ayute bint Hajji Aliyye b. Sā‘id b. Hasan Kawayni b. Umar.  Ayute married a Muslim ruler of Cambate, and their descendants ruled as the Oyeta dynasty (named after her) and were recognized as noblemen centuries later.  Ayute's husband Hamalmal met a Jesuit priest (Manoel de Almeida) who visited the region in 1614 CE according to the priest's diary, which has been translated into English.  

If the great-granddaughter of Hasan Kawayne lived in the 1600s, then there is no way Shaykhān could have lived in the 1500s or 1400s CE given the number of names between them.

Muhammad Mawla al-Dawayla (#21 in the tree) died in 765 AH/1363 CE. This means his 8th generation descendant, (#29) Shaykhān, lived at least two hundred years after him (in the 1500s CE). This provides a big chronological problem because this leaves Shaykhān - Hasan Kawayne - and Ayute all living in about the same era if not the same century.  The only solution for this tree to make any historical sense is to review the lineage between Hasan Kawayne and Shaykhān - as the genealogists of Tarim have requested. There cannot be more than 2-5 generations between them.

2. The only record we have for the Kawayni lineage is the old Quran inherited by the Kawayni family shown below. This is the only source of evidence that mentions the current lineage and it comes solely from the those "making the claim." For the lineage to be accepted by the Ba'Alawi family in Tarim, there must be supporting evidence from outsiders who can substantiate this claim.  For example, a government official, a judge, a historian, or two witnesses who mentioned or recognized the Kawayni lineage in documents.
3. Shaykhān b. ‘Alawī (level 29) is the last Ba'Alawi mentioned in the family tree in Tarim. It is not a coincidence that the family tree mentions that he traveled to East Africa (Sawāhīl). However, according to the records in Tarim, his children died out. Of course this can be a mistake given when there is no communication between a branch and the tribe in Tarim, but that is why it is important for the Kawayne family to find further evidence linking them to Shaykhān b. ‘Alawī.

١ -  النسب ما بين السيد الشريف حسن الكويني الى شيخان بن علوي  ما زال يحتاج الى التصحيح.  عندما زرت آل عبد الرحمن باعبود في تريم نظرت الى انسابهم و وجدت ان نسبهم وصل الى درجة ٣٨ او ٤٠ و نسبنا وصل الى اكثر من ٥٢. معناه انه يوجد زيادة في نسبنا كثيرا. 
٢ - المخطوط القديم الذي اعتمدنا عليه كان عنده زيادات واضحة مثلا كُتب فيها أحمد المهاجر مرتين و كُتب " زين بن عابدين" . هذه علامة انه يوجد زيادات في المخطوط
٣ - بعض الاسماء من اجداد الشريف حسن الكويني غريب جدا في ثقافة ال باعلوي مثلا اسم "ادم " و ابراهيم  و اكرار اسم محمد ثلاثة مرة
٤ - شيخان بن علوي كان حيا في قرن العاشر . و آيته بنت الحاج علي بن ساعد تزوجت من رئيس كمباتا في ايثويبيا في قرن الحادي العشر يعني 1600 ميلادي ومات زوجها في سنة 1614 ميلادي. واولادها اشراف كمباتا يسمون القبيلة باسمها. ما هو قصدي؟ يعني عندنا وثائق تاريخية انها كانت ملكة كمباتا في  1020 هجري. ومعناها ان ابوها الحاج علي بن ساعد كان حيا قبل ذلك. فاذا لا يمكن ان يكون بينه و بين شيخان بن علوي الذي عاش قبله مائة سنة اكثر من ٤ او ٥ اجداد. فهو مرفوض عقلا ان يكون ١٢ اجداد بينهما كما هو مكتوب في الشجرة . لا بد من حذف بعض الاسماء - يمكن بعضهم اسماء الاخوة ؟؟ الوثائق عندنا في زواج بنت الحاج علي هي المسيحين  من برتغال الذين زاروا البلد في عام 1614 والحمد لله

ما هي الغاية من كلامي كلها؟ لا بد من تصحيح و بينات . في هذه السنوات هل وجدتم بينات في الارض الشريفة التي دفن فيها الشهيد الحسن الكويني؟ هل مكنكم السفر الى فرفر او ويردر؟ هل يوجد مخطوطات او وثائق اخرى تبين النسب؟  هل يمكن السفر الآن؟

22 Comments:

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2:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brother Hassan kawayne is not ASharaaf, they are Bakriyiin. I have researched about this clan and found out that they started claiming AShraaf recently. Historically they were part of shekhaal who claim to be from Aabdir omar al-rida. The founding father Harar. Fiqi omar, or umar or Abadir omar is just one person.

2:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brother Hassan kawayne is not ASharaaf, they are Bakriyiin. I have researched about this clan and found out that they started claiming AShraaf recently. Historically they were part of shekhaal who claim to be from Aabdir omar al-rida. The founding father Harar. Fiqi omar, or umar or Abadir omar is just one person.

2:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the kaweyne clan was not shekhaal or bakriyin and neither do they share any blood relations with them.the fiqi omar mentioned are part of the dir clans . fiqi omar or abadir omar are part of dir clan they have nothing to do with hassan kaweyne.if you did any researchthen make it a public

8:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hassan kaweyne was never shekhaal and didnot associate them.the name shekhaalcannot be traced to one particular individual it something like dariqa where various cleric associated with one another,and would be refered to as the sheikhs or sheikhyash. of late some people started to say all the sheikhs are from one descedent and that they have one common father clled abadir omar or fiqi omar.the name omar is common amongst the muslims and in particular the somalis.while i dont refute the existance of one fiqi omar but hassan kaweyne is not his son but a descendant of different omar.the fiqi omar refered to is from the dir clan of the somalis while the father of hassan kaweyne omar is has always been ashariff.hassan kaweyne lineage is very clear and that they never mixed with other clans [so called sheegat] . kaweyne clan has never accepted individual or groups of people into the clan as its done by other somalis.the shekhaal while they associated with hassany they not blood brothers

12:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

asc ,brother , i have read the document about sheikh hassan kaweyne and his grand son ali whom i hve just learnt that he is buried in southern ethiopia..while am one of descendant of sheikh hassan kaweyne am suprised about the existance of people claiming haji ali as there forefather this confirms blood relations that exist between the somalis and ethiopians. but just wanted to more about this people where do they live in southwern ethiopia ,what their pop and whats there name currently?

5:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

asc ,brother , i have read the document about sheikh hassan kaweyne and his grand son ali whom i hve just learnt that he is buried in southern ethiopia..while am one of descendant of sheikh hassan kaweyne am suprised about the existance of people claiming haji ali as there forefather this confirms blood relations that exist between the somalis and ethiopians. but just wanted to more about this people where do they live in southwern ethiopia ,what their pop and whats there name currently?

5:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

asc ,brother , i have read the document about sheikh hassan kaweyne and his grand son ali whom i hve just learnt that he is buried in southern ethiopia..while am one of descendant of sheikh hassan kaweyne am suprised about the existance of people claiming haji ali as there forefather this confirms blood relations that exist between the somalis and ethiopians. but just wanted to more about this people where do they live in southwern ethiopia ,what their pop and whats there name currently?

5:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shekhaal is not an association they are one clan that trace their genealogy to fiqi omar aor Abadir. HAssan kawayne is a ranch of fiqi omar and this is documented in many historic books written about fourty years ago. The silte who live in Ethiopia trace their genealogy to ABadir and ABadir is bakriyiin . I surprise when I see people trying to create new identity.

1:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if a research has been done about shekhaal and hassanis that is fine but can you have it published in this column so that content of the strange claim is know.if the silte of ethiopia are descendant of the so called abadir thats ok. it simply means they are not the shariff of somalia if whats indicated in the comment correct.however if haji ali is their partriach then he is most likely hassani not shekhaal'

8:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not believe hassan kaweyne is sharif , because every sharif in somalia and EThiopia carry the title sharif before their name. I have not seen one single person from hassan kaweyne carrying the title sharif. Second taariikhda Somali written by sharif ALi aydaruus written fifty years ago describe the hassan kaweyne as a shekhaal clan rather than AShraaf.Third umar or faqi umar or ABadir umar is just one person, but this titles were given at different times. However I agree there is debate going on between some ethnogrphers about whether ABadir umar was a sharif or ABakri. Here is an Arab forum discussing this issue and after two years discussion and each side of the argument presenting their argument the debate was concluded that the father of shekhaal ,silte the Hararis and the oromo qallu is ABadir omar who is Bakriyiin by descdents.http://www.alnssabon.com/showthread.php?t=17368

2:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think you are making comments for the sake of it .since when did you do a research about this community and yet dont field questions about their origins.i asked you to publish in this column the research you claimed to have carried out on hassan kaweyne clan and the source of your halfbaked claims. i have the reference book you mentioned it does not say much except abroad discription about somali tribes.its not important to keep pushing this abadir omar as a campaign tool.what i wanted was aconcret evidence connecting kaweyne clan to the so called abadir omar of harar since you claimed to have carried research.why were the hassanis not invited to the debate which discussed them. am assuming it took place somewhere in ethiopia since you mentioned qallu,silt and shekhaal.

8:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the hassan kaweyn did not carry the title sharriff because of the historical reasons. since they were the sons of ali ibn abidalib they given two diffrent titles .the children of hussein were to be referd to as syed while the children of hassan were called shariff. any person refered to as shariff will in most cases be adescendant of hassan. to answer your question hassan kaweyne is the descendat of hussein and will in normal circumstnce not carry the title sharriff but syed.so that why they dont carry the title shariff. the shekhaal are composed of several unrelated groups 1.shekhaalkhudub 2. shekhaal loboge 3.shekhaal abdisheikh.shekhal gendershe .the khudub claim to be from bakr sadiq,lobge -martile hirab hawiye .abdisheikh from ujejenclan of hawiye. gendershe these are light skinned people settled along the somali coast probably of arab or asian origin. so how can these type of people be from one family tree. the arab forum you mentioned didnot any make sense to me since what is discussed did not show a serious research on the geneology of kaweyne or omar abadir . goodbye

3:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the hassan kaweyne family has taken note of the request for any form of document that can assist in developing afinal document of the geneology of the clan.meetings of the leaders of the clan has beeen organised in various places like mogadishu , nairobi, jijiga,ferfer and beletwein mainly to discuss the availability of doc that may assist the family geneology and history .the clans main base has been in ogaden region and in southern somalia both areas were affected by the sensiless wars in the horn of africa.many valuable documents were lost as a result but however some members said they can get some hand written books dating back to over hundred years some of them containg poetry[shiciir] in praise syed ali and his children. any way lets hope for the best, the documents will be emailed to you as soon as they are made available.

10:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My friend shekhaal is one clan and they all originate fiqi omar. Looboge is Ahmed faqi omar, qudub is cumar faqi cumar,Gendershe is Oman faqi omar, cabdi shekh is made of two sub-clans one is qudub and the other is originally mudulood and we know. The issue of GEdershey being reer hamar you have also reer gibilad from marka who are originally hassan kaweyne and the colour is not an issue it is where some one lived and who he have married. If I marry an an American my children will have the culture of an American and may be the colour of American.if you read the taariikhda Somali by sharif aydaruus on the chapter of reer hamar , he talks about bandhabow and with in bandhabow he talks reer Ahmed nur and he clearly say they are shekhaal reer aw hassan. And in the same place he mentions other reer hamar clans that are AShraaf, therefore he would have said reer aw Hassan is AShraaf, but because by then the claim of AShraaf did not exist he reported the original clan which is shekhaal.

2:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Further more I have done afield research to siltie while I was researching the relation ship between hajjialiyye and Aabdir of Harar. You can read that report here and my conclusion which is that siltie are dense dent of hajji alliye who in turn is descdents of Abadir omar . http://www.siltie.com/files/my_journey_to_siltie_zone.htm

2:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if you carried out a research about haji ali descendant of abadir omar then its possible that this haji ali sacid hassan kaweyne omar is adifferent person since he live in the 15th century while abadir omar probably lived in the 10th century. abadir omar is barkrin while haji ali is ashariff and the silte are also not shariff but descendent of abakr saddique and dont any blood relation with the hassan kaweyne.

2:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the confusion between shekhaal and hassan kaweyne clan is coming from the south somalia where the hassan kaweynes living in those areas were closer to shekhaal than other somalis because of there religious affiliation not because of anyblood relations. in somalia there is something called shegaat which means a minority clan joins another larger clan to form main clan .these clans will live together to share resource in the area and the name adopted will be that of the larger clan. however these smaller clans will continue to maintain their names .ashegaat[ clan which associates with another one for convience ] .when the smaller clan population increases they openly revolt against the adopting clan to establish the original identity.ahmed nor hassan kaweyne is well known and is the grand son of hassan kaweyne only that they lived at the somali coast and had alot of interaction with bandabow .the gendersher we have known in somalia who lived around marka claimed to have originated from yemen and were mainly coastal people mainly fishermen .the issue of asharaf is not recent because some villages in ferfer district were actually called asharaf and this dates back to 18 th century . recently some dna tests were conducted on hassanis and some shekhaals the result told a differet story they were not in any way related.

4:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is sheikh hassan kaweyne from sheikhaal clan or somali asharraf. who knows the answer. i was informed by an arab from zanzibar that sheykhani family may have migrated to comoros island in the indian ocean because there are many people with that surname.others are said to have settled in mombasa and other coastal places in east africa .

1:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i heard silte are arab so silte are decendants of arab can you prove this brother?

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